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"There was not a license agreement or permission for Luminary to have The Joe Rogan Experience on their platform," a representative told Hot Pod News. Meanwhile, The Joe Rogan Experience cited licensing as the reason it asked to be removed from Luminary. "If they want to reach our audience to promote their site, then they should do the 'unthinkable' and advertise in our podcasts as hundreds of other advertisers do." "Since Luminary's focus has been promoted solely as a paid subscription model, we were surprised to see them also use the free model which they have spoken negatively about and compete against," said executive chairman Norm Pattiz. PodcastOne, which has a 300 show portfolio, railed publicly against it. However, the free tier seems to have alienated podcast creators, much as Spotify did with recording artists. The company has previously stated that it wants to eschew advertising and become " the Netflix of podcasts." At the same time, it also has a free tier with podcasts that are available around the web, exactly like Overcast, Apple Podcasts and other podcast apps. Luminary was launched with the idea of offering high-quality, curated podcasts in an $8 per month subscription.

"If I go in and click play on a show on Luminary, we as a platform do not get real data back," Simplecast CEO Brad Smith told The Verge. The main problem seems to be that the network used a proxy for the podcast streams rather than serving up the originals, depriving the creators of valuable listener statistics. PodcastOne, The Joe Rogan Experience, Barstool Sports and other major podcasters have pulled their shows from Luminary, the startup network that launched with fanfare and $100 million in funding.